Discussion is the Rim Wildland Fire at 257,314 acres, 92% Type 3 IC Otterson/Singer, now 3rd largest wildfire in California history? #CaFire

Tuesday, August 27, 2013

Discussion is the Rim Wildland Fire at 257,314 acres, 92% Type 3 IC Otterson/Singer, now 3rd largest wildfire in California history? #CaFire

New List Of Largest California Wildfires #CaFire

Rim Fire Cow
Credit: Don Bartletti of @latimes. pic.twitter.com/nDqntiI8R8

Discussion is the Rim Wildland Fire 6th or 7th largest wildfire in California history?

CFN Tweet: #RimFire has grown to 179,481 acres, 20% contained, now making it the 6th largest Fire in California History.

Reply Tweet: No, 1889 fire would drop #RimFire to 8. Your list probably doesn't have 1932 Matilija fire.

List Compiling Problems noted:

1 CAL FIRE has wrong acreage listed for Station Fire. 2 CAL FIRE Lists a fire called Bear Wallow Siskiyou at 192,038 acres not on other lists but same size as Klamath Complex June 2008?

Fire Update 10-25 0900: 257,314 (402 sq miles) 100% CONTAINED
Fire Update 9-30 0900: 257,135 acres, 92% Type 3 IC Otterson/Singer
Fire Update 9-23 1900: 257,126 acres, 84% contained, ICT 2, Cooper
Fire Update 9-22 1900: 257,097 acres, 84% contained
Fire Update 9-16 1900: 256,528 acres, 84%
Fire Update 9-12 1900: 255,858 acres, 80%

Fire Update 9-9 0900: 254,685 acres, 80% contained

Fire Update 9-8 0900: 253,332 acres, 80%
Fire Update 9-7 1900: 252,521 acres, 80% contained

Fire Update 9-7 0900: 252,156 acres, 80% contained

Fire Update 9-6 0900: 246,350 acres, 80% contained

Fire Update 9-2 0900: 235,841 acres, 70% contained

Fire Update 9-2 0900: 228,670 acres, 60% contained #RimFire now 358 square miles an area larger than the cities of San Francisco, Oakland and San Jose combined.
Fire Update 9-1 1900: 224,777 acres
Fire Update 8-30 1900: 222,777 acres
Fire Update 8-30 0900: 219,277 acres
Fire Update 8-29: 213,414 acres
Fire Update 8-29: 199,737 acres
Fire Update 8-27: Rim Fire now 192,466 acres 30% cont. 4,500 structures remain threatened on east and west perimeter. For comparison New York City's land area covers 321 square miles, over 205,000 acres.
Fire Update 8-26: Rim Fire now 184,481 acres

Updated 8-28 Modified List Of Largest California Wildfires
#1 - Santiago Canyon Fire of 1889: 300,000 acres (469 sq mi; 121,406 ha) est.

#2 - Cedar Fire: 273,246 acres (427 sq mi; 110,579 ha)

#3 - Rim Fire: 257,314 (402 sq miles)
#4 - Zaca Fire: 240,207 acres (375 sq mi; 97,208 ha
#5 -Matilija Fire: 220,000 acres (344 sq mi; 89,031 ha)
#6 - Witch Fire: 197,990 acres (309 sq mi; 80,124 ha)

#7 - Klamath Complex 192,038 acres June 2008 (CDF - *Bear Wallow Siskiyou)

#8 - Marble-Cone Fire: 177,866 acres (720 km2)

#9 - Laguna Fire: 175,425 acres (274 sq mi; 70,992 ha)

#10 - Basin Complex fire: 162,818 acres (254 sq mi; 65,890 ha)
#11 - Day Fire: 162,700 acres (254 sq mi; 65,842 ha)
#12 - Station Fire: 160,557 acres (251 sq mi; 64,975 ha) http://inciweb.org/incident/1856/

#13 - McNally: July 2002 TULARE 150,696

Updated 8-28 Modified List Of Largest California Wildfires
#1 - Santiago Canyon Fire of 1889: 300,000 acres (469 sq mi; 121,406 ha) est.

#2 - Cedar Fire: 273,246 acres (427 sq mi; 110,579 ha)

#3 - Zaca Fire: 240,207 acres (375 sq mi; 97,208 ha)
#4 - Rim Fire: 222,777 acres
#5 -Matilija Fire: 220,000 acres (344 sq mi; 89,031 ha)
#6 - Witch Fire: 197,990 acres (309 sq mi; 80,124 ha)

#7 - Klamath Complex 192,038 acres June 2008 (CDF - *Bear Wallow Siskiyou)

#8 - Marble-Cone Fire: 177,866 acres (720 km2)

#9 - Laguna Fire: 175,425 acres (274 sq mi; 70,992 ha)

#13 - McNally: July 2002 TULARE 150,696

Updated 8-28 Modified List Of Largest California Wildfires
#1 - Santiago Canyon Fire of 1889: 300,000 acres (469 sq mi; 121,406 ha) est.

#2 - Cedar Fire: 273,246 acres (427 sq mi; 110,579 ha)

#3 - Zaca Fire: 240,207 acres (375 sq mi; 97,208 ha)
#4 - Matilija Fire: 220,000 acres (344 sq mi; 89,031 ha)
#5 - Witch Fire: 197,990 acres (309 sq mi; 80,124 ha)

#6 - Rim Fire: 192,466 acres( 300.728 square miles ) August 29 2013
#7 - Klamath Complex 192,038 acres June 2008 (CDF - *Bear Wallow Siskiyou)

#8 - Marble-Cone Fire: 177,866 acres (720 km2)

#9 - Laguna Fire: 175,425 acres (274 sq mi; 70,992 ha)

#13 - McNally: July 2002 TULARE 150,696

* Apparently CDF -Bear Wallow Siskiyou was the Klamath Complex for the USFS
Panther & North Ukonom fires - 75% contained, 52,813 acres
Bear Wallow Complex (Anthony Milne, Caribou, & South Ukonom fires) - 75% contained, 50,319 acres
Siskiyou/Blue 2 Complex - 95% contained, 87,469 acres

Updated 8-27 Modified List Of Largest California Wildfires

#1 - Santiago Canyon Fire of 1889: 300,000 acres (469 sq mi; 121,406 ha) est.
#2 - Cedar Fire: 273,246 acres (427 sq mi; 110,579 ha)

#3 - Zaca Fire: 240,207 acres (375 sq mi; 97,208 ha)
#4 - Matilija Fire: 220,000 acres (344 sq mi; 89,031 ha)
#5 - Witch Fire: 197,990 acres (309 sq mi; 80,124 ha)

#6 - Klamath Complex 192,038 acres June 2008 (CDF - *Bear Wallow Siskiyou)

#7 - Rim Fire 184,481 acres+ August 27 2013

#8 - Marble-Cone Fire: 177,866 acres (720 km2)

#9 - Laguna Fire: 175,425 acres (274 sq mi; 70,992 ha)

#13 - McNally: July 2002 TULARE 150,696

List Of Largest California Wildfires
#1 - Santiago Canyon Fire of 1889: 300,000 acres (469 sq mi; 121,406 ha) est.
#2 - Cedar Fire: 273,246 acres (427 sq mi; 110,579 ha)

#3 - Zaca Fire: 240,207 acres (375 sq mi; 97,208 ha)
#4 - Matilija Fire: 220,000 acres (344 sq mi; 89,031 ha)
#5 - Witch Fire: 197,990 acres (309 sq mi; 80,124 ha)

#6 - Klamath Complex 192,038 acres June 2008 (CDF - *Bear Wallow Siskiyou)

#7 - Rim Fire 179,481+ August 2013

#8 - Marble-Cone Fire: 177,866 acres (720 km2)

#9 - Laguna Fire: 175,425 acres (274 sq mi; 70,992 ha)

#13 - McNally: July 2002 TULARE 150,696

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My original list

#1 - Santiago Canyon Fire of 1889: 300,000 acres (469 sq mi; 121,406 ha) est.
#2 - Cedar Fire: 273,246 acres (427 sq mi; 110,579 ha)
#3 - Zaca Fire: 240,207 acres (375 sq mi; 97,208 ha)
#4 - Matilija Fire: 220,000 acres (344 sq mi; 89,031 ha)
#5 - Witch Fire: 197,990 acres (309 sq mi; 80,124 ha)
#6 - Marble-Cone Fire: ~178,000 acres (720 km2)
#7 - Laguna Fire: 175,425 acres (274 sq mi; 70,992 ha)
#8 - Basin Complex fire: 162,818 acres (254 sq mi; 65,890 ha)
#9 - Day Fire: 162,700 acres (254 sq mi; 65,842 ha)
#10 - Station Fire: 160,557 acres (251 sq mi; 64,975 ha)
#11 - McNally Fire: 150,670 acres (235 sq mi; 60,974 ha)
#12 - Old Fire (2003): 91,281 acres (143 sq mi; 36,940 ha)
#13 - Harris Fire: 90,440 acres (141 sq mi; 36,600 ha)
#14 - Indians Fire: 76,554 acres (120 sq mi; 30,980 ha)
#15 - Moonlight Fire: 65,000 acres (102 sq mi; 26,305 ha)
#16 - Sawtooth Complex fire: 61,700 acres (96 sq mi; 24,969 ha)
#17 - Ranch Fire: 58,401 acres (91 sq mi; 23,634 ha)

List derived from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_California_wildfires
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CDF List:
1 - CEDAR (HUMAN)

October 2003 SAN DIEGO 273,246

2 - ZACA (HUMAN)

July 2007 SANTA BARBARA 240,207

3 - BEAR WALLOW SISKIYOU 192,038

4 - MATILIJA (UNDETERMINED)

September 1932 VENTURA 220,000

5 - WITCH (POWERLINES)

October 2007 SAN DIEGO 197,990

6 - MARBLE CONE (LIGHTNING)

July 1977 MONTEREY 177,866

7 - LAGUNA (POWERLINES)

September 1970 SAN DIEGO 175,425

8 - BASIN COMPLEX (LIGHTNING)

June 2008 MONTEREY 162,818

9 - DAY FIRE (HUMAN)

September 2006 VENTURA 162,702

10 - MCNALLY (HUMAN)

July 2002 TULARE 150,696

11 - STANISLAUS COMPLEX (LIGHTNING)

August 1987 TUOLUMNE 145,980

12 - STATION FIRE (UNDER INVESTIGATION)

August 2009 LOS ANGELES 144,743

13 - BIG BAR COMPLEX (LIGHTNING)

August 1999 TRINITY 140,948

14 - CAMPBELL COMPLEX (POWERLINES)

August 1990 TEHAMA 125,892

15 - WHEELER (ARSON)

July 1985 VENTURA 118,000

16 - SIMI (UNDER INVESTIGATION)

October 2003 VENTURA 108,204

17 - HWY. 58 (VEHICLE)

August 1996 SAN LUIS OBISPO 106,668

18 - IRON ALPS COMPLEX (LIGHTNING)

June 2008 TRINITY 105,805

19 - CLAMPITT (POWERLINES)

September 1970 LOS ANGELES 105,212

20 - BAR COMPLEX (LIGHTNING)

July 2006 TRINITY 100,414

Derived from CAL FIRE .pdf: http://www.fire.ca.gov/about/downloads/20LACRES.pdf

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